If Migrants Throw Rocks at Military: “We’ll Consider That a Rifle”, They Sue Trump

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President Trump stated “They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back. I told them, consider it a rifle.” And of course, an attorney advocating for the caravan has filed a lawsuit against the President, saying that their “Constitutional rights” are being destroyed by his actions. Wait since when do illegals have “Constitutional rights?”


Newsflash: They do not have “standing” in American courts because they are not citizens. They haven’t set foot in America yet. And our Constitution should not apply to them…since they are illegally coming here in the first place. And because they refused asylum in Mexico, the term “refugee” should not apply.

And there are those in the caravan who have previously been deported from the US, so how does that work?

According to the Blaze, “The lawsuit names President Trump, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Homeland Security, and DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, among others, as the defendants.”

The filing belligerently says no one can stop them. “The legal problem with Trump’s plan to stop caravan persons from entering this country is that Plaintiffs are seeking asylum, and Trump simply cannot stop them from legally doing so by using military, or anyone.”

Rocks = Deadly Weapons

The IDF has to regularly shoot rock throwers. Rocks can kill (ask any women who’s been stoned under barbaric Sharia laws. Oh, wait. You can’t ask them, they’re dead). Even our Border Patrol has been often been struck by rocks. They are deadly weapons, period.

So, yes, our military and the Border Patrol should have the ability to defend themselves. The violence being reported from this caravan is real, and no, it’s not just “women and children just fleeing poverty.”  (See featured photo: screenshot of males in caravan via Sky news).

The constant narrative from the liberals is frustrating. While there may be a tiny portion of the caravan that deserves “asylum,” there are proven criminals and previously deported individuals within the caravan. It truly is a national security issue.

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  • BobCiacchero

    Criminal acts towards our Border Patrol and Military they need to defend themselves without percussion by anyone,they didn’t ask for this duty they were ordered by the President to defend the Borders.
    These Criminals are showing what they are all about Volience and trying to enter ?? Stop then ?

  • Kathryn Cimone

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    As an immigration attorney, I assure you: NO ONE CAN APPLY FOR ASYLUM ANYWHERE EXCEPT ON AMERICAN SOIL. There is no option to seek asylum at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate outside of the U.S.; these locations do not constitute American soil for immigration purposes:

    “8 USC 1158
    (a) Authority to apply for asylum
    (1) In general
    Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

    Secondly, suggesting that the people coming to our borders are “ememy” “invaders” evinces a large gap in both knowledge of any political issues affecting countries other than America and a wild ignorance of the U.S.’ history in the countries from which the people in the caravans hale. Characterizing those fleeing as enemies flies in the face of the lengthy – as of 1966 – foreign policy relationships we have had with each of those countries. This statement further underscores a lack of comprehension of this country’s role in the destabilized, violence-normalized, vacuums we left behind when we pulled our support, for example as at the end of the Salvadoran Civil War.

    In this war, we funded, trained, armed and fought beside what became ARENA, the political party which was acting in death-squad capacities prior to commencement of the war, and the one that continued, side by side with American Army and Intelligence personnel, continued to commit the most heinous atrocities against its own people. Of the roughly 7,000,000 Salvadoran people, approximately 70,000 were killed (mostly civilian), and at least 10,000 disappeared. UN Truth Report. 85% of those dead were killed by ARENA, while a mere 5% of those deaths are attributed to the FMLN (and its similarly-minded factions). The FMLN were termed the “guerillas”, but their formation was caused in the largest part as a response to the dictatorship to which the lower classes had been subjected for many years prior. Under President Romero, extra-judicial killings, disappearances, death squads, and all manner of human rights abuses were sanctioned. Further, the initial events that spurned the commencement of the war were committed by those members of Romero’s military – those would be become ARENA – who were inflamed by the power grap, ousting of Romero by their centrist military colleaugues.

    The acts of brutality most well known to us include: 1. the murder of Saint Umberto Romero on 03/24/1980, who was then a renowned human rights activist and Archbishop of ES; 2. opening fire on the 250k-large crowd of Bishop Romero’s mourners, killing 42 and wounding 200; and 3. months later, in December 1980, the rape and murder of four American churchwomen. These war crimes were known to the U.S. prior to their full-blown engagement in the war. When we entered, we backed the head of ARENA, Roberto D’Aubuisson, a well-known murderer and death squad leader. He was our ally. While the time period of the CW and D’Aubuisson’s 1972 training at the School of the Americas (as we later trained rounds 500 Salvadoran combatants, on American soil, and then in the Panama, and Honduran locations of the school) might seem to render this decision sound, it quickly came to light that he was the mastermind behind all of the above crimes. It further grew apparent that death squads were operating with impunity, merely dumping the bodies of their victims in an empty, yet prominent, open field in San Salvador. With this knowledge, we continued to train ARENA in methods of extraordinary rendition, investigation, psychological warfare, and fullblown marshall strategy. Our U.S. personnel knew nearly every offense committed by these men, yet did little, if anything, to thwart such continued behavior. In certain milieus, and by his own statements, it is confirmed that Colonel James Steele instructed, guided, and sanctioned horrific acts by the soon-to-be authoritarian regime that would prevail in 1992 at the end of the 12-year long inferno. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/06/el-salvador-iraq-police-squads-washington

    A quick review of unclassified documents re: our involvement in the war provide exemplars of our similar intervention in all the other countries from which the people in the caravan come. Our involvement in these wars was not humanitarian-based; it was strictly viewed our sole option to preserve American interests, civilian lives be damned. This information is well documented through the governments own papers and docs of other uninterested parties. A quick search for information on Steele and U.S./E.S. history, and our involvement in other countries yields all necessary to confirm the above.

    I shall not dignify the other points with responses as they speak of vile and base animal-like fear, the thoughts springing from which have not been graced with our greatest human gift: the ability to rise above atavistic and instinctive response based on the blessing of consciousness. This gift is closely tied to another prized human attribute: our ability to have compassion and behave in truly altruistic ways, by which I mean, to be good to others not because it benefits our own genetic material’s success, but to be good to all for the mere sake of gaining a benefit from kindness. We lose our humanity when we respond in knee-jerk, fear-based fashions. Let none of us forsake this incredible, god-given gift. Let us realize we played the largest part in normalizing violence, fueling wars, and then departing without looking back, leaving behind us a void and an authoritarian government. Circumstances that each of them create hotbeds for further criminality and violence. The U.S. acknowledged this by granting Salvadorans Temporary Protected Status in 1991, extending it through 1992 as Deferred Enforcement of Inspection. But it was then terminated because a peace accord was reached. That was certainly a humanitarian response, shrouded in pretextual reasons, but a little compassion was exhibited. Sadly, this small accommodation did little to assist the country in rebuilding itself once our American ends were accomplished. A trend we see more frequently with each passing year.

    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a615001.pdf (p. 100-);

    I love solid discourse. Please counter my points if you wish. This critical thinking and skepticism are our two most hallowed obligations to our great nation, to be exercised at all times, to ensure no need to invoke the 2nd Amendment right’s purpose. This Amendment is central to our concept of Americanism. As the Federalist Papers discuss in great detail, its purpose is to enable the people to protect themselves in the event we face an ARENA-like government at any time. The Second Amendment provides us the ability to overthrow such tyranny, as lay U.S. citizens. But just as we cannot do so without arms, so may we not be aware of the need to do so without constantly viewing our government through the lenses of critical thought and skepticism.

    Peace, love, intelligent thought, and warmest,

    Best regards,

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