The Australian Gun Ban Utopia Myth Exposed

 In 2nd Amendment, Foreign

Almost every single gun control debate I have been in (there has been literally hundreds) the gun control advocate always ends up comparing gun death statistics in the United States to gun death statistics in Australia and European countries.  I have already laid out the flawed, inflated US statistics the left likes to tout in a previous article which you can find here.  This article also touches on European countries after gun bans. Today I’d like to point out how the left uses flawed, and often inflated statistics when they refer to these foreign countries, namely the Australia gun ban.

First, it is very important to note that the Bill of Rights, drafted by the genius James Madison, clearly lays out that RIGHTS that each US citizen has for simlpy being alive. Inalienable rights, that no government or man can take from us.  The countries that we are often compared to by the left do not have the luxury of this protection.  Having said that, I will now go on to do what I do best, and that is to systematically destroy the leftist argument with facts, data and statistics.

CLAIM: “Australia banned ALL guns and it STOPPED all mass shootings.”

FACTS: Here are the Mass killings in Australia listed on Wikipedia since the gun confiscation/buy back.

Murder Suicide 28 June 1997 Richmond, Tasmania 5 Peter Shoobridge cut the throat of his 4 daughters whilst they slept then took his own life with a rifle after cutting off one of his hands with an axe.[10]
Wright St Bikie Murders 8 October 1999 Adelaide, Australia 3 2 Hell’s Angels feud[11]
Childers Palace Backpackers Hostel fire 23 June 2000 Childers, Queensland 15 unknown Arson attack by Robert Paul Long, which killed 15 international backpackers
Monash University shooting 21 October 2002 Melbourne, Victoria 2 5 Mass shooting attack by Huan Yun “Allen” Xiang
Churchill Fire 7 February 2009 Churchill, Victoria 10 unknown Arson attack by Brendan Sokaluk that killed 10 people, during the Black Saturday bushfires period
Lin family murders 18 July 2009 North Epping, New South Wales 5 unknown Blunt instrument attack that killed 5 members of the Lin family
2011 Hectorville siege 29 April 2011 Hectorville, South Australia 3 3 Siege attack where Anthony Carbo murdered 3 people and injured 3 more including 2 police officers.
Quakers Hill nursing home fire 18 November 2011 Sydney, NSW 11 Arson attack by Roger Kingsley Dean, a nurse, which killed 11 people
Rozelle fire murders 4 September 2014 Rozelle, New South Wales 3 2 Arson attack by Adeel Khan which killed 3 and injured another 2.[12]
Hunt family murders 9 September 2014 Lockhart, New South Wales 5 0 Mass shooting and Familicide by Geoff Hunt who killed his wife and three children before turning the gun on himself
Sydney Siege 15 – 16 December 2014 Sydney, NSW 3 0 Siege. A lone gunman, Man Haron Monis, held hostage ten customers and eight employees of a Lindt chocolate café located at Martin Place in Sydney, Australia. The NSW Police Tactical Operations Unit shot Monis dead, after he executed a hostage. In the exchange one person was hit by Police bullet fragments, causing accidental death to one of them. known as the 2014 Sydney hostage crisis it was a 16-hour siege.
Cairns child killings 19 December 2014 Cairns, Queensland 8 1 (self-inflicted by perpetrator) Stabbing attack and Familicide. 8 children aged 18 months to 15 years killed. Thirty-seven-year-old woman also found injured. The woman, Raina Mersane Ina Thaiday, was later charged with the murder of the children, 7 of whom were hers, plus her niece.[13]
January 2017 Melbourne car attack 20 January 2017 Melbourne, Victoria 6 30 Vehicular attack. Dimitrious Gargasoulas drove a Holden Commodore into Bourke St Mall, resulting in the deaths of 6 people and injuring 30+ others.

Clearly you can see at least 2 mass shootings on this list. One of these is even a school shooting Monash University.  So we see, yet again, LITERAL lies coming from the left with this claim.  Also we see a very invalid argument. Not only has there, IN FACT, been mass shootings since the ban, but the amount of mass KILLINGS has stayed consistent before and after the gun ban and confiscation. Yes, the homicide rates in Australia fell, but they fell on par with even the gun toting USA which these charts show. Image result for US homicides rates

 

The bottom line is this, the gun ban/confiscation enacted in Australia did not decrease the amount of mass shootings/mass killings in the country. IN FACT, the gun ban in Australia did not even lower the homicide rate of the country.

The homicide rate only began to fall to numbers lower than the ban EIGHT years after the ban was enacted, AND this drop in homicides was also evident in our great, gun toting nation. It is also important to note that at the same time homicides fell in the US from about 1992 to 2010, gun sales trended upwards according to the ATF.  So there are more guns on the streets and homicides declined.

Image result for atf gun sales per year

The next time your liberal, gun grabbing, freedom hating friend brings up Australia as some sort of argument for gun control please slap them in the face with these facts.

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  • Charles Garcia
    Reply

    Anyone opposed to the rights they have along with the privilege of living in this country are free to leave to another country that they perceive to have policies more in line with their beliefs. Thank you for demonstrating how to conduct a civil discourse using facts and not using emotionally divisive labels to distract from the real issues. More people need to have the courage to stand up to the onslaught of misinformation, hatred, intolerance, and violence with the aplomb you show in your responses. Thank you!

  • Michael
    Reply

    http://andrewleigh.org/pdf/GunBuyback_Panel.pdf

    https://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

    I came across your website reading something on Snopes. And yes I am an Australian living in Australia. Not sure why the ‘fuck Australia’ comment, but it takes all sorts. We do have a constitution somewhere I am sure, just none of us think that it is such a powerful document that it is the source for all moral guidance.

    Perhaps you do truly need to be an American to appreciate its relevance, but given that it is a document made up of ‘ammendments’ cant you change, adopt and grow to reflect a more compassionate world?

    I understand the value of democracy, the power of the people and the right it offers, but it is not an exclusively American ideal.

    I hope that you understand where this is coming from, and that I do value the principles of freedom and choice, but there is always a time to learn and adopt.

    And I cannot see how the Australian outcome is not necessairly a learning for the US.

    Cheers
    Michael

  • Aaron White
    Reply

    I am from Australia and I have been getting more involved in the gun debate because it is everywhere. I have read your notes and I remember when the bans came into effect. I do not have a clear stance on what should be done with guns, which is why I appreciate getting factual data in your piece above.
    I want to explore what thought has been given to the different histories of Australia and America plus how that ties into the gun debate. Specifically that America had a civil war and experienced conflict on home soil, so the right to bear arms has much weight to it. But Australia has not had anything close to what Americans have experienced with guns or conflict. For me especially, my pop loved guns and used to take my brothers to the shooting club all the time. So for us having guns was a positive experience, but I never considered them in terms of self defence or our right to use them.
    I am trying to find my words, but I think my gut feeling is that Australia and America can never be compared for gun control because we are 100% apples and oranges. The stats you listed are really interesting and we can definitely draw conclusions from them, but I think it would be a mistake to rely on them. Our values are the same, but our culture is different enough that even if we somehow concluded that gun control worked in Australia, it is too simple to say it would “work” in America. Which is why I had to comment to your article which for a change was not personal and stuck to facts as much as possible.
    Please note I am just trying to explore these ideas and hope everyone’s who responds will tell me if they agree or disagree without taking anything personally. Cheers.

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